Based on feedback, the Esperanto clause will be moved to a different HIP
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I think this is a great option.
Renweing could be a tricky word for the non english speakers. What do you think if we use:
“I certify that I am a real human and that i am reaplying for this registry”.?
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It would be very interesting to accept multiple languages. And let the people that understand that language can be capable to certify this. For example, and entry point to this could be a bilingual human. And this human can be the first approver. Then the rest of the native language can validate the upcoming registers.
I would rather make it explicit that the registration phrase is also valid for renewals even if the meaning is not correct. Otherwise, I foresee people mistakenly using the registration phrase and getting challenged. Is there a clear benefit in having a different phrase for renewals?
For registrations and renewals, what do you think about changing “registry” to “proof of humanity”? “Registry” is too generic. People that are paid/manipulated into recording the video for someone else would have a higher chance of finding out what this is about.
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there are 6000 spoken language in the planet, so for each additional language, there should be an additional certified native speaker. The logistic problem is not very well understood, especially when I am proposing to add just one other language, as a second language to everyone.
It could be a way, it sounds like when these sort of ad hoc, patching up over the last mistake kind of approach will end up in a very convoluted process. On the other hand it could be a really good way out to the uninformed. The fact that the statement is devoid of sense only supports even more the question of using a neutral language for it.
The point is that I am trying to make the proposal the most permanent possible. The use of the two phrases would require at some point in the future to fix that and make the process clearer.
Juanu’s option is good, but Koki’s seems to be the easiest to pronounce. For non-natives “renewing my registration on this registry” might be too many difficult “R’s”.
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adding my twe cents:
Instead of:
“…and that I am not already REGISTERED in this registry”
Should be:
“… and that I am not already CERTIFIED in this registry”
How about something more generic that serves both.
“I certify that I am a real human, and this is my video for Proof of Humanity.”
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We would also be giving publicity to the project. And anyone who sees it might be interested in joining.
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Yeah I agree, Ruben.
Also, what do you think since this is a renewal, and people are already onboarded on the procedure, to add another layer that guarantees that the renewal was not recorded in advance? There were options offered before, like reading the latest block hash or holding a newspaper or something similar.
Using this phrase, we could even use the videos to show them on social networks.
Yes, it would be nice to show something recent besides showing the address, it could be something simple, maybe a word that is renewed year by year and is available on the main site.
There is no possibility of creating several videos at once and no technical skill or effort is required to get the process right.
I like the keyword of the year, and the best thing is that the keyword be updated dynamically in the renewal instructions. Maybe add to the interphase
- After the end of the phrase, you should also say the magic word of the year, which is
<magic word>.
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I think this would overcomplicate things. There won’t be 1 tutorial that can explain step by step what to say, and so many people will just do the same as others (right now I’m pretty sure people just watch a video and try to imitate it).
I understand the reasons behind, but I think the phrase should be static and easy to say, whatever it is.
It is true that this complicates things, but this is a coevolution against evil, which itself gets more complex and complex, and everything needs to be considered for new attack vectors.
What prevents a person registering grandpa, or a person in a remote location and recording renewal videos for 8 years in advance?
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“I certify that I am a real human and that I am re-applying for this registry”
That’s good
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Ok I’ll leave this a little longer, and I’ll pass it to phase 2. The Snapshot poll will have one “no” and several “yes” (one for each phrase proposed.
I’ll add an internal poll right here to see if we want some proof that the video was not recorded in advance or not.
We should also decide what @fnanni proposed, which is have both phrases allowable in order to reduce challenges.
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Poll 1: Should there be a “time of recording proof” in the renewal video? (newspaper of the day, block hash, etc)
- Yes
- No
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Poll 2: should the first submission text be accepted along with the renewal text?
- Yes
- No
0 voters
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