HIP-? on Snapshot Editorial Rights

[santisiri]

Hi humans,

Today we had a spam attack on snapshot.org/#/poh.eth. I erased all the spammy posts that contained random quotes from sci-fi books. To prevent further action of this kind, I only restricted to admins to publish any HIP for voting there. You can reach me (or any Mission Board member) to publish a HIP in the meantime. But we should draft a HIP that we can all agree on how the DAO shall manage this task moving forward.

[clesaege]

I had proposed this [Phase-2] HIP-23 Snapshot Administration - #16 by clesaege

[ludovico]

If I’m correct, HIP 23 was about giving the mission board control over what is being put in Snapshot. I believe this HIP might be looking for a different, trustless alternative than that one.

Two brainstorm options:

1. If I remember correctly, @juanu mentioned that an interphase that allows humans to sign is not that hard to make. We could set up a bounty to create such interphase and create a quorum mechanism, e.g. a certain amount of human signatures are required to move the proposal to a phase 3 voting. This would be an equivalent of a phase 2 poll, so this might be a chance to revise the underspecified HIP 5

2. Same mechanism as 1, but with a fork of token log. Don’t know exactly what would it take and how should it work but I guess that would also require a HIP 5 reform.

Edit: a quorum mechanism has been discussed before Proposals require Quorum to pass?

Edit 2: as a side note, these recent attacks make absolutely no sense. Has anything similar ever happened in any other DAO community? What could be the purpose of these attacks?

[santisiri]

HIP 23 was rejected.

I voted against HIP 23 on the grounds that it gave too much power to the Mission Board and it could lead in the future to a scenario where the board has the power to censor proposals that went against its interests. I think we need and can do something better than that.

https://snapshot.org/#/poh.eth/proposal/QmRoiqcyDeJkUxG4Go5Sr8gHUziCqLc66HdVPuuT6ZcEAE

[juanu]

@ludovico

If I remember correctly, @juanu mentioned that an interphase that allows humans to sign is not that hard to make. We could set up a bounty to create such interphase and create a quorum mechanism, e.g. a certain amount of human signatures are required to move the proposal to a phase 3 voting. This would be an equivalent of a phase 2 poll, so this might be a chance to revise the underspecified HIP 5

I was proposing this to allow humans to sign arbitrary messages. I’m not sure it’s that east to replace Snapshot.

However, it would be a great use case to ask Snapshot if adding a feature to give permissions to post based on some mechanism (like with voting) would be easy to implement.

[clesaege]

HIP-23 does not allow board members to censor proposal (while the current state could).

@clesaege

In case a valid proposal were not to be put to vote within a week by any board member or delegate, anyone can create a new snapshot page with a 10 days proposal changing the board composition and the official snapshot page. It should include “Make no change” and “Change the board composition and snapshot page”. It should also be displayed on the forum.
A board member can also post this proposal on the current snapshot page.
If the amount of “Change the board composition and snapshot page” votes on any of the snapshot page exceeds the amount of “Make no change” on both snapshot pages, the proposal changing the board and snapshot page is accepted.
In case no proposal is created by a board member within the voting period of the proposal on the new snapshot page and the amount of “Change the board composition and snapshot page” exceeds the amount of “Make no change”, the proposal changing the board and snapshot page is also accepted.

I resubmitted HIP-23 to unblock the situation.

[santisiri]

I think a more frictionless approach should be considered… ideally not requiring a fork of the Snapshot page. But I’m okay with @clesaege resubmitting HIP 23 for re-consideration of the community.

[clesaege]

Well we could have the DAO kinda control the page via controlling the ENS. But if the governance gets locked up due to board censoring I don’t see how we could use it. After the governance is unlocked we could always go back to the original page.